Here are a few pictures of the self proclaimed "prophet" TIMOTHY:

his real name is Speed T Allen Rathbun,

The woman you see here is Timothy's wife, AMY RATHBUN. She also helps him write and edit "letters".

Trent fuller (left), and "prophet" Timothy in the background. Trent Fuller runs a website; He also has several youtube channels. He is a very dedicated follower of "Timothy".

Timothy may have grown out his hair and beard since these pictures were taken...
BEWARE! There are many other major other key players in this scheme if you will, A large number of Timothy's decieved followers have been "commanded" to share Timothy's gospel ''given to modern man for modern man's sake" out to the public however they can...The majority of Timothy's faithful duped followers have been told that they, along with himself, are a part of the "chosen" 144,000 to serve Christ during the time of the Tribulation Period...It's important to know who we are dealing with.. There are pictures of other members of this cult, contact me and I will direct you to where you can view them...


The following are testimonials from past members of this dangerous cult and families who have loved ones involved. In respect for their privacy I will not use their names. They come from various reliable sources. Here they are:

"I was unfortunately caught up in this cult until a little while ago. I would still be there had it not been for my family hiring a professional exit counselor to do an intervention. I am still going through a recovery period because of the mind control they employ to reform people’s thoughts and get them to be mindlessly obedient (or what they call “Trust with abandonment” and “Obedience without expectation”). I have been left scared and confused, unable to trust even my own thoughts and perspectives but thankfully I am on the mend. I have gone through bouts of anxiety and depression and have had nightmares about something evil “getting” me. I know there are many good people being deceived into giving up their families, careers, possessions and any part of their lives which do not fall into the group’s way of thinking. Spending many hours a day recruiting (or so the group calls it “trumpeting”) both in person and on many internet venues such as facebook and youtube. I myself used to spend at least 2.5 to 3 hours studying and approximately 2 hours every day “trumpeting” plus the group study sessions 3 or 4 times a week each at about 4 hours long, it doesn’t leave much time for anything else. of course didn't realize it was a cult when I started, but I began reading the letters after I saw a video on youtube. They sparked my interest as I had already been feeling that we are nearing Jesus' return for some time and something in these letters grabbed hold of that. I was at first just curious and so I kept reading them. They brought up answers to questions which had been bugging me and hadn't been satisfied with answers I recieved from others I'd talked to (like Sabbath observation) and that intrigued me even further. The letters point to things like Joel 28-29 (28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy , your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit) and since I felt the return was near I thought "maybe this is a prophet of the last days". There was mystery and intrigue in the fact that there is little information given about the man Timothy himself as well, which seemed different than others calling themselves prophets on the web, he seemed humble because he didn't "toot his own horn" and he wasn't looking for money. He seemed to give all the glory to God and that also drew me further in, knowing that a true prophet of God would not bring glory to himself but to God. Needless to say I eventually began to believe fully that these were messages from God. At first I was just reading the letters on my own, I had stopped going to Church and was observing Sabbath on my own. After a while, I was invited by Trent to come to the group study meetings after I met him through a website. I was excited and started attending them (4 of them each week). I felt closer to God and grateful to be chosen to be one of the few in this group, it was like God himself was directing my life (which I know he always is but even more obviously than before) and I was absolutely on fire for Him. I strived to obey in all things out of love for Him, I ached to get rid of the "world" in me and cried out to God to break everything that was standing in the way between Him and I. Of course out of letters and group studies I recieved the answers on how that could happen, at first it was encouragement and the leaders modeling their own lives that led me to do things, but later it got very demanding people were being kicked out if the didn't obey the demands (leave the church because the groups view is that they are all led by leaders who have been decieved and were prideful and stubborn they were called "man-made" churches, believe in no eternal torment in hell, give of your money, time, strength, everything... or else) . I completely separated from my family emailing them all to tell them I couldn't be with them if they rejected the letters (because I believed they were God's word) and didn't accept Jesus in thier lives, I gave money and even jewelry (because I didn't have enough money) out of fear that I would have to leave the group if I didn't give enough. I nearly lost my husband (I didn't separate from him but was basically living very much apart from him) and felt like a martyr when he wanted to kick me out of my home. My daughter apparently felt very distanced from me because I was always on the computer, which she told others (I found out during my intervention). I was involved in the group for only about 4 months but I was so deep in I would have put everything on the line at the drop of a hat. A couple of weeks ago my mom called me up and asked me to come over to explain the letters to her and the rest of my family, they were all there waiting and wanted to know more. I was at first skeptical but had told them I would if they only asked, so I went. After I got there a stranger showed up and started talking to me about the group, asking me questions. I didn't like them at first because they were the "scholar" in my eyes we had been told would try to decieve us with "man's doctrine" and even practically yelled at my family that I wanted to leave unless they wanted to ask me questions about the letters (excluding the stranger). Later in the process (it was 4 days long) I found out that the stranger was an "exit-counselor" and was shown alot of things about the group that slowly weared at my defenses. I was shown that Timothy and his wife bring in $93,000 and owned 3 or 4 homes in several locations in the US. I was adamant that the letters lined up with Scripture as well but was told that many groups like this will give you mostly "good stuff" but then slip a little "bad stuff" in there, then I was later shown things like the fact that the letters say if you reject the letters but believe the Bible you are denying God, when in the cult that seemed right to me (by that time I had totally bought in) but during the intervention I could see that is not scriptural at all. I was also taught about mind-control and realized that the group was in fact performing mind-control techniques on us, there were 8 "warning signs" and this group exibited all of them. I even found out that one technique many groups use in mind-control is to assess if person is a "Feeler", "Thinker" or "Doer" and this group did that to me in the guise that it was a "counseling session" that Trent wanted to practice (I'm not sure if Trent knew what it was for or not). That information can then be used to "tailor" information that comes to you, to hieghten your experience and "confirm" the messages to you so that you internalize them easier. I have had ups and downs in recovery, and have had to make amends with alot of people but I am happy to be free and am re-discovering God's true Grace. He is teaching me to worship in the storm and praise Him in ALL things and I know He will restore and heal me completely as only He can! I hope the others can be freed as well and I hope that Timothy will be turned from his ways. Anyone who comes across these letters, PLEASE do not fall for the deception because that is what it is."

"In the group I was involved with called the “Trumpet call of God”, we had an entire study conducted during Sabbath which was focused entirely on “Being Separate”; it was an intense 4 hour lecture on how we need to be separate from all things worldly, including our own family members who did not believe in the letters produced by the leader/prophet. We were to separate from the church (meaning the mainstream churches) and from all “unbelievers”. We were taught by the prophet in letters and study sessions about these same things over and over and were warned about “worldly” reading material, anything other than the prophet’s letters and the Bible (which was severely undermined anyway) and even watching the news or weather network. I asked the prophet at one point, if this meant I had to stay away from my entire family for good and he told me that he believes that God wants us to be completely separate from our families who did not believe in Jesus and the letters. We were told to “silence the scoffers” by separating or blocking them out so they would not hurt themselves by mocking God and the prophet any more than they had already."

"This is a very dangerous cult. I would know. I was once involved. Timothy told me I had to leave my family and friends or ELSE! They manipulated me and hurt me Spiritually and Emotionally and when I needed them the most, they threw me out to the dogs."

"My Cousin Emily has been involved in this group VERY heavily for several years. Her family has fallen apart, she has given away everything, even moved to Nebraska to be near Timothy and several of the other followers and is now living in Texas with another family along with her 3 young children who I worry about constantly. She helps create some of the videos that are posted. PLEASE pray for my cousin Emily and her children to be removed from this group. She has cut me off because I "interfered" and refuse to believe Timothy's word as the Lords."

"I will tell you a little about me. I love my grandchildren with all my heart. I am very close to them and have helped raise them. About two months ago,  my daughter took them (and her husband) to Nebraska to live in a free trailer owned by Timothy's relatives. He has indoctrinated my daughter to separate from me because I don't believe those letters. And that's what she has done, cutting off all communication with me and the rest of her family. None of us have been able to talk to the kids in about a month. I miss them so much and am so disturbed at what Timothy has done to our family. He is an evil man, and while his facebook page has a new posting that says no one is to say anything against him, I'm here to tell you that he is NOT a prophet of God. And he is laying up some very serious punishment against him
by God for leading these people astray in the name of God and Jesus."

"Soooo glad Im out of that horrible cult!! So sad :( This cult paid for me to move from my friends & family in Las Vegas to Texas. Thankful my family stepped in before I could get on the plane!!!! I was involved in that cult for  about 9 months. They said "The Lord" was going to destroy Las Vegas because of its filth and that I needed to obey "The Lord" and leave my friends & family & job and everything behind to be "saved". They were telling me "The Lord" HATED the place I grew up! :( I know Las Vegas isn't that great of a place but nonetheless I love the Lord very very much and Las Vegas is my home and the place I love. I was always treated like the "bad guy". They said I was welcome to the "table" once I obeyed "The Lord" and left Las Vegas. Until then I was in direct disobedience to "The Lord" for living here."

"As a former member of the "Trumpet Call of God", I believe this group is destructive in nature. By their fruit you will know them. The fruit of this group is not love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control (see Galatians 5:22) but rather hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, divisions, the feeling that everyone is wrong except those in your own little group (see Galatians 5:20) Before joining this group I was a loving, humble and forgiving person I have been a born again Christian for 5 years and I love the Lord more than anything in this world. When I was in this group though, I became hostile, I would spew scripture as though they were weapons towards those I felt were against my views. I felt self-righteous as though I knew more than anyone else I knew outside the group and so I felt justified in telling them so (in the name of so called love of course), there was no grace or mercy given, either you believe what I do or you are the enemy, one side of the fence or the other. I was constantly trying desperately to "separate" from anything worldly including family members and became uncaring toward anything that didn't work towards that goal including those who needed me and needed my care (like my own children). Many of the members in this group have separated from family members, marriages have been dissolved relationships torn to shreds, people have lost jobs, been left bankrupt and many other hardships have been faced as a result. I constantly struggle now after being out of that group with what I believe and have to "chew" things for weeks or months before I will trust it, I'm very afraid of being deceived again. On the positive side, the Lord has given me wonderful opportunities to minister to others and encourage them. I have deep love for the Lord and though I still have not attended church (that was against the rules in this group and I still struggle with attending) I have a relationship with Him that I depend on and couldn't imagine living without. Please beware of this group and their teachings, I pray fervently for those in it and those affected by it."

"IF YOU ARE READING THE 'LETTERS FROM GOD AND HIS CHRIST' .... YOU NEED TO QUIT, AND READ ONLY THE HOLY BIBLE , THE SCRIPTURES OF TRUTH, there you will find the Holy Spirit, and be led into the "real" truth.... please.. I beg you, after being involved with this group for over 2 1/2 years, I was "thrown out" because it was said that I " disobeyed"... the only disobedience I showed was that I did not give mr. rathbun his "tithe' every month... which I have tithed over 20,000+ in the last two years... they are nothing but GREEDY....I have personally caught a Mr. Timothy Rathbun in 6...yes...6...different lies, and of those, the Lord led me personally to understand that this man is using the bible for his own gain, and in so doing, is going to reap the plagues on himself and those associated with him from revelations 22:18-20. Mr. Rathbun has described himself as a "prophet" for the Lord,...but I can tell you from personal involvement with this group, NOT ONE PROPHESY WHICH MR.RATHBUN EVER MADE EVER CAME TRUE I also have proof that I never stole any tithes, and for being disobedient, I was "forbidden" to get married to a woman who truly loves Christ. I became extremely suspicious of Timothy when I was commanded to "depart" from this woman, after being told that I could not share the "letters" with her, nor even Scripture !! If the very front page of the "letters" book states, " for God's word is Free to ALL," ...then why not HER ???? I rest my case."

"My wife abducted my 1 year old to the states to be close to the cult. Timothy is only using THE LORD to get an audiance from men. she is very selfish. I am in constant pain and anguish from missing my daughter, I am getting sick from the stress. Yet she claims to know God and Love God. She is a false prophet in the making."

√Cults are best known for dominating and alienating members from their families and friends...This is what sets them apart. These leaders convince followers that only they hold "their best intrests" at heart and "their own families are now somehow the "enemy"... This is nothing new, many infamous cults which have come and gone and some who still thrive operate similarly. SECLUSION..Both mental and physical...

The mind control techniques Timothy utilizes on his "flock" are obviously simple to grasp. In order to achieve complete mind control, he must get rid of all obstacles-and those obstacles which are his the FAMILIES of his followers whom he knows will pose a challenge to him. The only way to ensure his flock's unwavering devotion to him as-the "lord's prophet" is to eliminate all outside influences such as FAMILY, FRIENDS, close relations etc in order to achieve his goal.

"Either you believe exactly what i believe or else..."
Is this what it all boils down to?
Isn't BLOOD supposed to be thicker than water?

Different views and/or beliefs should not be an ultimate deciding factor in keeping or casting someone out of one's life!

This is treading on dangerous ground...

The main requirements of "trumpet call of god" is that followers and members "separate"-CUT OFF ALL CONTACT from *anyone* who won't accept and belive Timothy's letters as "the word of God",this includes *family and friends. They must only communicate with fellow members. They are also FORBIDDEN to attend church because according to Timothy "all churches and their doctrines now belong to satan" and only HIS "gospel" is the "truth". (This makes the indoctrination process easier).

Violating any of Timothy's "rules" such as attending church, not separating from friends and/or family often results in EXPULSION from the group ("the lord's banquet table"), if he cannot exercise complete control over you, you are thrown out.

Now "trumpeters" will often reference and twist Scripture to justify this(separating from loved ones), but the Bible never commands anyone to "separate" from fellow believers! The irony...

BEWARE! No legitimate "ministry" would command such thing...

I'm sure some of us have non-christians in our families even-Does this make them bad people? Should we coldly cast aside just anyone because they dont "think exactly like us?"

"Prophet Timothy" is responsible for alienating members from their own familes,friends, causing division among marriages etc. The "fruits" of this cult are broken friendships, families torn to shreds, marriages dissolved, stress, anguish, debt--the list goes on. Wives have left husbands, husbands have left wives. many are on the brink of divorce because of their involvement this cult.

*One contradiction that I want to point out is that the Bible-that they also claim to uphold says that one should NOT forsake their non-believing(non christian) spouse! Clarify this one trumpet call of god...
1Corinthians 7:13-15
"And a woman who has an unbelieving husband, and he consents to live with her, she must not send her husband away. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy. Yet if the unbelieving one leaves, let him leave; the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called us to peace."

Maybe Timothy is trying to burn bridges (family ties) so that members are left with nothing if cast out. But like the prodigal son who has lost his way, Families will eagerly welcome them back...

Please continue praying for those who are involved in this group...

₩If anyone reading this is somehow involved with trumpet call of god--FLEE while you still can!

•*If one really studies how cults work, it all falls right into place. It's almost as if Timothy looked up a manual for starting a cult and followed it step by step...

Insights into the inner workings of this cult (this is from a former member):

#°Timothy says he is one of the 144,000 (of course he knows of the other 143,999 but if you ask "who" you are asked why do you ask) and the verse is not actually talking about Jewish male virgin converts but about "those who haven't defiled themselves with the "woman" (the church)" also he is not Jewish by birth but was "grafted" in the the tribe of Levi.

#°Anytime you have a question you are directed to a counsellor for counseling, Timothy will not answer your questions most of the time, he has someone else do it for him. After your doctrinal questions are explained and you have any more questions, you are made to feel you are a horrible person for ever questioning them and just the accept them "holding nothing back" and block out all you ever knew before and if they sense that you do not blindly and willingly accept their doctrines, you will be blocked from study and ostracized.

°All Timothy has to do is say something negative about one of the members and they all will turn on you "poor so and so, let us pray double for them, but first lets post tons of letters to their account and then block them or stop communicating with them" You are to cut yourself off from anyone who does not believe in the letters.

°Many things in the letters are pulled from other cults other religious movements-- with all their so called "doctrines" rolled into one. They believe in soul sleep, there is no such thing as eternal torment in hell, no one is in heaven except Jesus, Moses, Elijah, and children, abstain from eating pork, only drink purified water, eat little meat etc.

°Timothy and his wife Amy allow you to send money to certain "international ministries" through them, and the "Lord" commands that the flock members do it.

°Jayse-(FORMER member whose name is featured on some of the letters ) was a "prophet" in training, every letter to Jayse and/or others members is first "corrected" and rewritten by Timothy and Amy.

°Jayse did not work, one of the other members supported him; this cult also has the tendency of moving people across states and "supporting" them if you will. When this is the case they are at their complete mercy.

°Coincidentally Jayse started getting letters 2 days after he moved in with the another member.

°You are always trying to earn God's love and your best is never good enough, you must give more money, more time, and more self.

°If you are not raptured (and you die during the tribulation) you will not reproduce in the "new kingdom" but if you are raptured you will be able to have lots of children in the new kingdom and be married and have sex, etc.

°The letters say that "God" will search the hearts and minds but Timothy has said NO ONE who believes in eternal hell whether by false leading or free will-will be "raptured" because "they do not know God."

°"The Jesus of the churches are not and never were the Jesus of the letters" God is no longer the "church goer's 'God'."

°You do not have the power to cast out demons, only a "select few" have this power.

°You "NEED" Timothy because he is the "prophet" and not all flesh has this gift spoken about in Acts 2:17.

°If you "disobey" the letters and go to church you will NOT be raptured. Many many people will not be raptured.

°Timothy will "confirm" if the "Lord says you will be".

°You are discouraged to watch the news, sermons, tv, radio etc.

°*A male once posed as a female wanting to join study and Timothy said the lord told him to "let 'HER' come"! (what does that tell you? Would allmighty God not be able to tell one's gender?)

°"God's spirit" has "left" the church. "A demon has entered the church" so any "form of spirit" you feel while attending church is of a "demon" and not "God".

°Many are told they need to fast during the Sabbath and you are to be looked down upon if you dont.

°Once time Timothy even said to a member "the 'Lord' said he is upset with you for leaving to get food during study" *But now the Lord says only the watchmen must fast.

*(not allowing you to eat makes it easier to mind control you and manipulate your emotions)

°They stay on study from 11:00am eastern time till usually 3:30-4:30pm.

°Timothy and wife Amy Rathbun do not "trumpet the letters" (pass out cards/letters) in person, this is only for the "flock" members.

°Timothy and Army were to trumpet the letters from home only.

°You will only be "raptured" once you have been "broken" but one day you can be "rapture ready" and the next not.

°There sometimes are breaking processes during "studies" that involve spilling all of your guts to everyone in the study such as your failures and shameful feelings so that they can "fix" you.

°This is typical of a cult in the way you expose yourself to the leaders, so they can learn what your weaknesses are so that they can "counsel" you.#

There you have it...

*You shall know them by their "fruit". Mind control, friendships dissolved, marriages destroyed, debt etc...

~Are these letters really of "divine" origin?
You be the judge...

Galatians 1:6-7 (Amplified Bible)
I am surprised and astonished that you are so quickly [a] turning renegade and deserting Him Who invited and called you [b] by the grace (unmerited favor) of Christ (the Messiah) [and that you are transferring your allegiance] to a different gospel. Not that there is [or could be] any other [genuine Gospel], but there are [obviously] some who are troubling and disturbing and bewildering you with a different kind of teaching which they offer as a gospel] and want to pervert and distort the Gospel of Christ (the Messiah) [into something which it absolutely is not].

Those people are zealous to win you over, but for no good. What they want is to alienate you from us, so that you may have zeal for them.-Galatians 4:15-17

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.-2 Peter 2:1


According to public records Speed T. Rathbun aka "Timothy" the so-called "prophet" owns property in Hastings, Nebraska. He also owns property in Greely, Colorado. This property is listed under the names *Speed T. A. Rathbun,and Amy J. Rathbun*, his wife. Average house price in the Nebraska neighborhood where Speed T. Rathbun (aka "Timothy") lives is listed as $75,300+. In Greely, Colorado, where Speed T. Rathbun (aka Timothy) apparently owns a second residence, the average price for a home there at $105,100+. This means that Speed T. Rathbun's real estate assets may be worth about $180,000+ in approximate appraised value (might be worth more now). How does the "Prophet Timothy" afford this? Timothy lives with his wife Amy and three children. Rathbun apparently has a child from a previous relationship. It's unclear what monthly child support Speed T. Rathbun (aka "Timothy") is obligated to pay. Speed "Timothy" Rathbun and his wife Amy Rathbun also co-own a publishing company in Hastings Nebraska operating since '92. This "Timothy" now generates an estimated 93,000+ a yr! Timothy has pocketed money/"tithes" from decived followers.

Now some of his faithful and naïve followers will argue that "Timothy does not take money from people",That's true to a certain extent... His website "claims" that he does not accept "money/donations"--true, random people who visit the site to read his "letters from God" will not be charged. Do you think that someone who claims to be a "prophet of God" would be that obvious especially when trying to create a following? Folks who simply follow this cult and share his letters onto social networking venues such as Facebook etc will not be charged. These people are vital to aiding his campaign.

BUT WHAT MANY OF THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT BE AWARE OF is that if you want to actually join this cult and become a member and participate in Bible studies via Skype which he calls "the lord's banquet table" certain obligations including paying Timothy thithes will eventually be required from you.The false prophet Timothy has collected thousands of dollar$+ from his close followers. He is often paid in cash so there is no paper trail. Here are a couple personal accounts from some past members of this cult:

"IF YOU ARE READING THE 'LETTERS FROM GOD AND HIS CHRIST' .... YOU NEED TO QUIT, AND READ ONLY THE HOLY BIBLE , THE SCRIPTURES OF TRUTH, there you will find the Holy Spirit, and be led into the "real" truth.... please.. I beg you, after being involved with this group for over 2 1/2 years, I was "thrown out" because it was said that I " disobeyed"... the only disobedience I showed was that I did not give mr. rathbun his "tithe' every month... which I have tithed over 20,000+ in the last two years... they are nothing but GREEDY....I have personally caught a Mr. Timothy Rathbun in 6...yes...6...different lies, and of those, the Lord led me personally to understand that this man is using the bible for his own gain, and in so doing, is going to reap the plagues on himself and those associated with him from revelations 22:18-20. Mr. Rathbun has described himself as a "prophet" for the Lord,...but I can tell you from personal involvement with this group, NOT ONE PROPHESY WHICH MR.RATHBUN EVER MADE EVER CAME TRUE"

"Members usually live at the lower socio-economic strata, not because of a lower income level, but because they are always giving money to the group for some reason."

Everything compiled here are researched documented facts. I have spoken with this past cult member. And sadly there are many more like him. I will be updating this post as I come across additional information.

God bless

(The man sitting on the steps in the middle of this picture is non other than "prophet" TIMOTHY!)


(taken from the Q & A section of their website "trumpet call of god online")

Trumpet call of god online-Trumpet Letters-“Letters from God and His Christ” Q & A DEBUNKED!

Question: Were the “sons of God”, in Genesis 6:2, men or angels?

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the sons o God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took themselves wives of all which they chose. ~ Genesis 6:1-2

Trumpet call of god's Answer: They were MEN, who followed Go NOT angels. The verses above simply state that the population humankind was increasing upon the earth.

**DEBUNKED**: For the notion that the “Sons of God” were just  men  who followed God  cannot  be true for this reason:

wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

**Now if the “Sons of God” were “godly men”, why did God state that He saw that the wickedness of man was great after this occurred? ** Proof the “Sons of God” are Angelic beings and NOT Men:

**If the Sons of God were simply men who followed God, how it that “human men” went before the Lord Almighty?**

JOB 1:6 says, Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them.

**Does this sound right to you? That "regular men" went before the Lord with satan? Absolutely not!

** Further evidence in scripture: JOB 38:5-7 Who determined its size? Do you know? Or who has stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the SONS OF GOD shouted for joy?” SONS OF GOD shouted for joy?”  

**How could the sons of God be men, if man was not even there when God first laid the foundations of the earth?

** Trumpet call of god: Angels do not marry.. In Genesis 6:2, the “sons of God” took the women to be their wives. We know that spiritual beings (including angels) do not marry because of what Jesus, Himself, tells us in Mark 12:25, which indicates that angels (spiritual beings) are neither married nor given in marriage....For when they shall rise from the dead they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in Heaven.~ Mark 12:25

**DEBUNKED**: It is correct that angels are not  supposed  to marry, however in the book of Enoch, which further explains the giants (nephilim) and the sons of God, it explains how the angels rebelled against the Lord in doing this. Just because angels were not made to marry, doesn’t mean they couldn’t rebel against the Lord. Proof of angels rebelling against the Lord was seen through satan and the multitude of fallen angels which came down to earth with him.

**As for the argument that angels can't interbreed with man...

1 Enoch chapter 6 says: The sons of heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' men and beget us children.'  And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.'  all answered him and said:  bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this plan. All two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqlel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens."

The trumpet letter author forgets that angels are not only spiritual, but can come to earth in physical forms as well...

** Scriptures that support this: Hebrews 13:2: strangers, for by this some have entertained angels unaware.

**How could we show hospitality to angels unaware if we couldn’t even see them? Obviously this proves angels can be among us in human form.

** Genesis 19:1: evening; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground; face toward the ground; And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways.”

**If the angels came as spiritual beings, how could they wash their feet?

This is proof that angels indeed take bodily forms!

** Question:  Are the “giants” or “nephilim”, in Genesis 6:4, the offspring of angels who had intercourse with the daughters of men?

Trumpet call of god’s Answer: Absolutely not! This is impossible and blasphemy in the eyes of God. Again, in Genesis 6:4, there is no mention of “angels”. We have already discussed the term, “sons of God”, on the previous page.

**DEBUNKED**: Genesis 6:4-5 it says,
 “There were GIANTS in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

**You can’t ignore the fact that they bore what the bible says were GIANTS. Normal human beings don’t have giant/super-human children!

Evidence of giants is Goliath for one, and there have been many giant human remains found throughout history to confirm this passage!

** Trumpet letter author goes on to quote these passages: I warn everyone hearing the words of the prophecy in this book that  written in this book.  ~ Revelation 22:18 CJB   Don’t add anything to His words be found a liar. ~ Proverbs 30:6 You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it God which I command you. ~ Deuteronomy 4:2 ever I command you, be careful to observe it;  add to it nor take away from it.

**Final Statement**: The irony of these quoted passages is that they apply to the  Trumpet call of god letters  themselves, since the authors claim they are letters from God Himself!

To say that the bible is contradicting itself or that the book of Enoch is “adding to the bible” is hypocrisy on their part since  the book of Enoch gains much more credibility since Enoch is mentioned in God’s word,and Enoch was indeed “taken up” to the heavens like the bible states.

Whereas the "trumpet letters of god-letters from god and his christ" have nothing to do with the bible nor is there any future Biblical mention of them... So which is a more credible source? 

YOU be the judge.

God Bless...

TRUMPET CALL OF GOD #CULT/"last testaments"? "modern day prophets"? BE NOT DECEIVED...

There is no more prophecy, i.e. revelation, i.e. teachings, there is only the personal relationship with God through Jesus/God the Son who became the perpetual High priest, Prophet and King & Lord of Lords. And we have the Holy Spirit, so we have no need for mediators/prophets. God no longer speaks through prophets now that we have the Bible and Holy Spirit.

The Bible was completed and in circulation just prior to the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD and so prophecy, i.e. teachings, i.e. revelation, was no longer needed upon the destruction of the temple as prophecied in Daniel 9:24 & 26-27, "Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy...

The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven'he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

So there is no more prophecy, it ended with the completion of the Bible and destruction of the temple. So there are no "modern day prophets".

We need to test "prophets"; Deut 13:1-5, Deut 18:18-22, I Thess 5:19-22, Matthew 7 and etc. Many have been deceived.

God pours out His spirit and there will be visions and prophecy then Daniel 9 lets us know it ends with the destruction of the temple and ICor also lets us know the majority of these gifts will cease. Although God can communicate with people through dreams etc, it is NOT the same as the new false "modern day prophet" movement many cults are perpetrating.

They were signs for the jews to authenticate the apostles' gospel message, just as miracles like restored limbs, raising from the dead etc were. So all these visions and miracles were for the jews & Gentiles a sign for the specified time from the day of Pentecost to the destruction of the temple when the jews were taken captive into all the nations.

That is why we dont see restored eyes and limbs anymore unless it is an act of God. Just like sacrifice, it was all brought to an end with the destruction of the temple when the Jews were scattered abroad into all the nations.

Anyone telling people to "come out of the churches" like Harold Camping did, is a false prophet. We are encouraged to find a local body of Christ and support it and not "separate" ourselves as is the habit of some as scripture clearly teaches.

There is never a time promoted in scripture to not do this! The world church is ecclesia and means the body of believers, not a building. We are NEVER told to abandon the body of believers. The building or denomination, unless it is a cult, is irrelevant.

Anyone talking about coming out of the churches does not know what they are talking about. There are no «last testaments» or "prophets". Just hearing the words, "the Lord does speak through his prophets, He has chosen Timothy to deliver this last testament to the world..." Is a failure of the tests!

Whoever this Timothy is I can tell you right now he is a false prophet. As he is making himself out to be a mediator between man and God.

Sadly also,trumpet call's followers' words echo nearly exactly the same testimony that mormons have of Joseph Smith.

The book of mormon was supposed to be an "additional testament" and they claim Joseph was a prophet and that the current leader of the mormon church is also prophet.

We have the Bible and we have the Holy Spirit so there are no mediators anymore such as "prophets",high priests etc..

The Bible clearly states believers are to preach the Gospel as stated in the bible. Not "A new/different Gospel"...

6 I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel 7which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!

God bless...


Trumpet Letters of "God and his christ" *Debunked*— Contradictions Exposed!

Contradiction #1: This is a letter titled, “The Lord Will Carry You” from 8/13/06 Timothy wrote:

“Timothy! Hear the word of The Lord! You are My prophet, My student, My apostle. You shall become much more... Yea, a “god” among men, for I shall share of Myself with you. I will live in you like none before…”

****Hold on a minute…did Timothy just say that he will be a “god” among men??

What the Bible says: But be not you called Rabbi: for all you are brothers.” –Matthew 23:8 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your master, Christ.” – Matthew 23:10 Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me For there is one God,   and   one mediator also between God an men"See now that I, I am He, And there is no god besides Me" - Deuteronomy 32:39

****This statement from Timothy is obviously in complete contradiction to the Holy Bible!

Jesus was the ONLY “God among men” and there will be no other. This is blasphemous!

Contradiction #2:
The 144,000 (quoted from the same letter titled “The Lord Will Carry You”) Timothy wrote:

“ Then shall you be established... A great prophet of The Lord, one of 144,000, who shall, as Moses, lead My peop from oppression and out of temptation, from darkness into the light of life..”

****So Timothy claims to be one of the “144,000” as described the book of Revelation.
Could this be true? Let’s first look at what the bible says about who the 144,000 are;

In Revelation 7:4-8 it says,“ from all the tribes of Israel. 5 From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben 12,000, from the tribe of Gad 12,000, 6 from the tribe of Asher 12,000, from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000, from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000, 7 from the tribe of Simeon 12,000, from the tribe of Levi 12,000, from the tribe of Issachar 12,000, 8 from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000, from the tribe of Joseph 12,000, from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.”

It’s clear that the 144,000 are going to be Israelites right? Well even though Timothy is not a direct Israelite, he could argue that “no one knows” who are the descendants of the Jews, which is true. But there is no need to argue this theory because Timothy already contradicted HIMSELF from being able to be one of the 144,000 in another letter of his!

Read below-In a letter by Timothy written on 8/31/04 titled,“Chosen By God” Timothy wrote:
“  I am your God and you are one of My chosen sons of the Gentiles..”

****So there you have it. Not only did Timothy claim to be a “god” among men, but he just proved that he can’t be part of the 144,000 with his own words!

Finally,an examination of the Trumpet call of god letter from 10/6/10 called “The final blast of this Trumpet…The time of the Lord’s Rebuke, the final call to come out..”

Trumpet call of god's letter: “And this final trumpet blast, before the time shall be blown. You will not be alone in your sounding, for you shall sound this trumpet in all manner of speaking and devices, according to how I, Myself, lead you.” AND “ My sons, take from amongst My word and begin the final trumpet blast”

**DEBUNKED** Revelation 11:15: “Then the  seventh angel sounded;and there were loud voices in heaven, saying,"The kingdom of the world ha become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever." (scripture says the ANGEL will sound the trumpet-it says nothing about the believers on earth sounding the trumpet by means of speaking and devices!)

Trumpet call of god's letter: “ The time has ended, and My spirit is removed...My hand withdrawn from the earth! “

**what THE BIBLE says,Psalm 139:7-12: “WHITHER SHALL I GO FROM THY SPIRIT? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend up into heaven, thou  here. If I take the wings of the morning,  and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me. If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me. Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light 

Revelation 22:17: “And THE SPIRIT AND THE BRIDE SAY, COME. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.”(notice that this is written after the trumpets have blasted!)

Matthew 28:18-20: “And Jesus came and spake unto them saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, LO I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS,EVEN UNTO THE END OF THE WORLD. Amen.”

(Jesus said He will be with us even until the end of the world. No mention of withdrawing His Spirit!)

Still believe he’s a ‘prophet’ from "God"? If so,then you are blind by choice.