(taken from the Q & A section of their website "trumpet call of god online")

Trumpet call of god online-Trumpet Letters-“Letters from God and His Christ” Q & A DEBUNKED!

Question: Were the “sons of God”, in Genesis 6:2, men or angels?

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the sons o God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took themselves wives of all which they chose. ~ Genesis 6:1-2

Trumpet call of god's Answer: They were MEN, who followed Go NOT angels. The verses above simply state that the population humankind was increasing upon the earth.

**DEBUNKED**: For the notion that the “Sons of God” were just  men  who followed God  cannot  be true for this reason:

wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

**Now if the “Sons of God” were “godly men”, why did God state that He saw that the wickedness of man was great after this occurred? ** Proof the “Sons of God” are Angelic beings and NOT Men:

**If the Sons of God were simply men who followed God, how it that “human men” went before the Lord Almighty?**

JOB 1:6 says, Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them.

**Does this sound right to you? That "regular men" went before the Lord with satan? Absolutely not!

** Further evidence in scripture: JOB 38:5-7 Who determined its size? Do you know? Or who has stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the SONS OF GOD shouted for joy?” SONS OF GOD shouted for joy?”  

**How could the sons of God be men, if man was not even there when God first laid the foundations of the earth?

** Trumpet call of god: Angels do not marry.. In Genesis 6:2, the “sons of God” took the women to be their wives. We know that spiritual beings (including angels) do not marry because of what Jesus, Himself, tells us in Mark 12:25, which indicates that angels (spiritual beings) are neither married nor given in marriage....For when they shall rise from the dead they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in Heaven.~ Mark 12:25

**DEBUNKED**: It is correct that angels are not  supposed  to marry, however in the book of Enoch, which further explains the giants (nephilim) and the sons of God, it explains how the angels rebelled against the Lord in doing this. Just because angels were not made to marry, doesn’t mean they couldn’t rebel against the Lord. Proof of angels rebelling against the Lord was seen through satan and the multitude of fallen angels which came down to earth with him.

**As for the argument that angels can't interbreed with man...

1 Enoch chapter 6 says: The sons of heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' men and beget us children.'  And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.'  all answered him and said:  bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this plan. All two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqlel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens."

The trumpet letter author forgets that angels are not only spiritual, but can come to earth in physical forms as well...

** Scriptures that support this: Hebrews 13:2: strangers, for by this some have entertained angels unaware.

**How could we show hospitality to angels unaware if we couldn’t even see them? Obviously this proves angels can be among us in human form.

** Genesis 19:1: evening; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground; face toward the ground; And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways.”

**If the angels came as spiritual beings, how could they wash their feet?

This is proof that angels indeed take bodily forms!

** Question:  Are the “giants” or “nephilim”, in Genesis 6:4, the offspring of angels who had intercourse with the daughters of men?

Trumpet call of god’s Answer: Absolutely not! This is impossible and blasphemy in the eyes of God. Again, in Genesis 6:4, there is no mention of “angels”. We have already discussed the term, “sons of God”, on the previous page.

**DEBUNKED**: Genesis 6:4-5 it says,
 “There were GIANTS in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

**You can’t ignore the fact that they bore what the bible says were GIANTS. Normal human beings don’t have giant/super-human children!

Evidence of giants is Goliath for one, and there have been many giant human remains found throughout history to confirm this passage!

** Trumpet letter author goes on to quote these passages: I warn everyone hearing the words of the prophecy in this book that  written in this book.  ~ Revelation 22:18 CJB   Don’t add anything to His words be found a liar. ~ Proverbs 30:6 You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it God which I command you. ~ Deuteronomy 4:2 ever I command you, be careful to observe it;  add to it nor take away from it.

**Final Statement**: The irony of these quoted passages is that they apply to the  Trumpet call of god letters  themselves, since the authors claim they are letters from God Himself!

To say that the bible is contradicting itself or that the book of Enoch is “adding to the bible” is hypocrisy on their part since  the book of Enoch gains much more credibility since Enoch is mentioned in God’s word,and Enoch was indeed “taken up” to the heavens like the bible states.

Whereas the "trumpet letters of god-letters from god and his christ" have nothing to do with the bible nor is there any future Biblical mention of them... So which is a more credible source? 

YOU be the judge.

God Bless...


Anonymous said...

1st time I have scripture to debunk and not simply the usual disagreement with the doctrine of hell from those claiming Timothy is a false prophet, thank you.

Failed prophecies would put the matter to rest once and for all, you should consider doing a page on that.

Anonymous said...

Those people are all over the internet. They're everywhere.,62059,page=51

Anonymous said...

Please continue your study of this group. I have seen others say Timothy predicted the rapture would happen in September of 2011. If this is true it is definitely a failed prophecy. I have 2 daughters who have become different people since becoming involved with Trumpet Call. God bless you (the trueGod)!

echbearsfan said...

What Bible are you getting first Enoch from? Never read that in any one I have owned. Let’s not quote any books of the Bible that weren't in the cannon before the 1900's. Which the catholic church inserted to justify many of its Heretical, and cultic practices. I am for the Body being one, but there is much idolatry and Pagan practices that were added in the church, when they became politicians in Rome under Constantine. the Church was much more blessed before they started seeking money and power. Why do you think the catholic hierarchy didn't want common people to read the word?! They would see that the church was teaching practices which were against God’s will, the teaching of Christ and the teachings of the apostles. Stick with the first reference to Angels "sons of God" in Genesis 6:1-8. Thanks and God bless!

Anonymous said...

he is in control of a church in brownwood texas. he operates through the home of a wealthy follower. this follower recently gained custody of my nieces one year old son. small town and niece made to sound like satan versus the fact she is a born again christian and refused to follow timothy or his teachings. any help appreciated. we must save him

†TheoJesusIsLove said...

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