(taken from the Q & A section of their website "trumpet call of god online")
Trumpet call of god online-Trumpet Letters-“Letters from God and His Christ” Q & A DEBUNKED!
Question: Were the “sons of God”, in Genesis 6:2, men or angels?
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the sons o God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took themselves wives of all which they chose. ~ Genesis 6:1-2
Trumpet call of god's Answer: They were MEN, who followed Go NOT angels. The verses above simply state that the population humankind was increasing upon the earth.
**DEBUNKED**: For the notion that the “Sons of God” were just men who followed God cannot be true for this reason:
wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
**Now if the “Sons of God” were “godly men”, why did God state that He saw that the wickedness of man was great after this occurred? ** Proof the “Sons of God” are Angelic beings and NOT Men:
**If the Sons of God were simply men who followed God, how it that “human men” went before the Lord Almighty?**
JOB 1:6 says, Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them.
**Does this sound right to you? That "regular men" went before the Lord with satan? Absolutely not!
** Further evidence in scripture: JOB 38:5-7 Who determined its size? Do you know? Or who has stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the SONS OF GOD shouted for joy?” SONS OF GOD shouted for joy?”
**How could the sons of God be men, if man was not even there when God first laid the foundations of the earth?
** Trumpet call of god: Angels do not marry.. In Genesis 6:2, the “sons of God” took the women to be their wives. We know that spiritual beings (including angels) do not marry because of what Jesus, Himself, tells us in Mark 12:25, which indicates that angels (spiritual beings) are neither married nor given in marriage....For when they shall rise from the dead they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in Heaven.~ Mark 12:25
**DEBUNKED**: It is correct that angels are not supposed to marry, however in the book of Enoch, which further explains the giants (nephilim) and the sons of God, it explains how the angels rebelled against the Lord in doing this. Just because angels were not made to marry, doesn’t mean they couldn’t rebel against the Lord. Proof of angels rebelling against the Lord was seen through satan and the multitude of fallen angels which came down to earth with him.
**As for the argument that angels can't interbreed with man...
1 Enoch chapter 6 says: The sons of heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' men and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' all answered him and said: bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this plan. All two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqlel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens."
The trumpet letter author forgets that angels are not only spiritual, but can come to earth in physical forms as well...
** Scriptures that support this: Hebrews 13:2: strangers, for by this some have entertained angels unaware.
**How could we show hospitality to angels unaware if we couldn’t even see them? Obviously this proves angels can be among us in human form.
** Genesis 19:1: evening; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground; face toward the ground; And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways.”
**If the angels came as spiritual beings, how could they wash their feet?
This is proof that angels indeed take bodily forms!
** Question: Are the “giants” or “nephilim”, in Genesis 6:4, the offspring of angels who had intercourse with the daughters of men?
Trumpet call of god’s Answer: Absolutely not! This is impossible and blasphemy in the eyes of God. Again, in Genesis 6:4, there is no mention of “angels”. We have already discussed the term, “sons of God”, on the previous page.
**DEBUNKED**: Genesis 6:4-5 it says,
“There were GIANTS in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
**You can’t ignore the fact that they bore what the bible says were GIANTS. Normal human beings don’t have giant/super-human children!
Evidence of giants is Goliath for one, and there have been many giant human remains found throughout history to confirm this passage!
** Trumpet letter author goes on to quote these passages: I warn everyone hearing the words of the prophecy in this book that written in this book. ~ Revelation 22:18 CJB Don’t add anything to His words be found a liar. ~ Proverbs 30:6 You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it God which I command you. ~ Deuteronomy 4:2 ever I command you, be careful to observe it; add to it nor take away from it.
**Final Statement**: The irony of these quoted passages is that they apply to the Trumpet call of god letters themselves, since the authors claim they are letters from God Himself!
To say that the bible is contradicting itself or that the book of Enoch is “adding to the bible” is hypocrisy on their part since the book of Enoch gains much more credibility since Enoch is mentioned in God’s word,and Enoch was indeed “taken up” to the heavens like the bible states.
Whereas the "trumpet letters of god-letters from god and his christ" have nothing to do with the bible nor is there any future Biblical mention of them... So which is a more credible source?
YOU be the judge.
God Bless...
TRUMPET CALL OF GOD #CULT/"last testaments"? "modern day prophets"? BE NOT DECEIVED...
There is no more prophecy, i.e. revelation, i.e. teachings, there is only the personal relationship with God through Jesus/God the Son who became the perpetual High priest, Prophet and King & Lord of Lords. And we have the Holy Spirit, so we have no need for mediators/prophets. God no longer speaks through prophets now that we have the Bible and Holy Spirit.
The Bible was completed and in circulation just prior to the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD and so prophecy, i.e. teachings, i.e. revelation, was no longer needed upon the destruction of the temple as prophecied in Daniel 9:24 & 26-27, "Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy...
The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven'he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."
So there is no more prophecy, it ended with the completion of the Bible and destruction of the temple. So there are no "modern day prophets".
We need to test "prophets"; Deut 13:1-5, Deut 18:18-22, I Thess 5:19-22, Matthew 7 and etc. Many have been deceived.
God pours out His spirit and there will be visions and prophecy then Daniel 9 lets us know it ends with the destruction of the temple and ICor also lets us know the majority of these gifts will cease. Although God can communicate with people through dreams etc, it is NOT the same as the new false "modern day prophet" movement many cults are perpetrating.
They were signs for the jews to authenticate the apostles' gospel message, just as miracles like restored limbs, raising from the dead etc were. So all these visions and miracles were for the jews & Gentiles a sign for the specified time from the day of Pentecost to the destruction of the temple when the jews were taken captive into all the nations.
That is why we dont see restored eyes and limbs anymore unless it is an act of God. Just like sacrifice, it was all brought to an end with the destruction of the temple when the Jews were scattered abroad into all the nations.
Anyone telling people to "come out of the churches" like Harold Camping did, is a false prophet. We are encouraged to find a local body of Christ and support it and not "separate" ourselves as is the habit of some as scripture clearly teaches.
There is never a time promoted in scripture to not do this! The world church is ecclesia and means the body of believers, not a building. We are NEVER told to abandon the body of believers. The building or denomination, unless it is a cult, is irrelevant.
Anyone talking about coming out of the churches does not know what they are talking about. There are no «last testaments» or "prophets". Just hearing the words, "the Lord does speak through his prophets, He has chosen Timothy to deliver this last testament to the world..." Is a failure of the tests!
Whoever this Timothy is I can tell you right now he is a false prophet. As he is making himself out to be a mediator between man and God.
Sadly also,trumpet call's followers' words echo nearly exactly the same testimony that mormons have of Joseph Smith.
The book of mormon was supposed to be an "additional testament" and they claim Joseph was a prophet and that the current leader of the mormon church is also prophet.
We have the Bible and we have the Holy Spirit so there are no mediators anymore such as "prophets",high priests etc..
The Bible clearly states believers are to preach the Gospel as stated in the bible. Not "A new/different Gospel"...
GALATIANS 1:6-9
6 I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel 7which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!
God bless...
The Bible was completed and in circulation just prior to the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD and so prophecy, i.e. teachings, i.e. revelation, was no longer needed upon the destruction of the temple as prophecied in Daniel 9:24 & 26-27, "Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy...
The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven'he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."
So there is no more prophecy, it ended with the completion of the Bible and destruction of the temple. So there are no "modern day prophets".
We need to test "prophets"; Deut 13:1-5, Deut 18:18-22, I Thess 5:19-22, Matthew 7 and etc. Many have been deceived.
God pours out His spirit and there will be visions and prophecy then Daniel 9 lets us know it ends with the destruction of the temple and ICor also lets us know the majority of these gifts will cease. Although God can communicate with people through dreams etc, it is NOT the same as the new false "modern day prophet" movement many cults are perpetrating.
They were signs for the jews to authenticate the apostles' gospel message, just as miracles like restored limbs, raising from the dead etc were. So all these visions and miracles were for the jews & Gentiles a sign for the specified time from the day of Pentecost to the destruction of the temple when the jews were taken captive into all the nations.
That is why we dont see restored eyes and limbs anymore unless it is an act of God. Just like sacrifice, it was all brought to an end with the destruction of the temple when the Jews were scattered abroad into all the nations.
Anyone telling people to "come out of the churches" like Harold Camping did, is a false prophet. We are encouraged to find a local body of Christ and support it and not "separate" ourselves as is the habit of some as scripture clearly teaches.
There is never a time promoted in scripture to not do this! The world church is ecclesia and means the body of believers, not a building. We are NEVER told to abandon the body of believers. The building or denomination, unless it is a cult, is irrelevant.
Anyone talking about coming out of the churches does not know what they are talking about. There are no «last testaments» or "prophets". Just hearing the words, "the Lord does speak through his prophets, He has chosen Timothy to deliver this last testament to the world..." Is a failure of the tests!
Whoever this Timothy is I can tell you right now he is a false prophet. As he is making himself out to be a mediator between man and God.
Sadly also,trumpet call's followers' words echo nearly exactly the same testimony that mormons have of Joseph Smith.
The book of mormon was supposed to be an "additional testament" and they claim Joseph was a prophet and that the current leader of the mormon church is also prophet.
We have the Bible and we have the Holy Spirit so there are no mediators anymore such as "prophets",high priests etc..
The Bible clearly states believers are to preach the Gospel as stated in the bible. Not "A new/different Gospel"...
GALATIANS 1:6-9
6 I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel 7which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!
God bless...
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